Andy Kaufman & Jerry Lawler – The Feud That Took Memphis Mainstream

In an interview with Bill Apter at Legends of the Ring in 2014, Jerry Lawler mentioned Andy Kaufman once told him that he would give up everything he was doing in Hollywood if he could just stay involved in wrestling. “He was the greatest thing that ever happened to my career,” Lawler declares.

Once inside the world of wrestling, very few could argue that Andy wasn’t born to be a heel. Like a fish takes to water, he instigated and got heat like the best of them. The small territory of Memphis was about to go mainstream in a hurry. Nobody had seen anything like Andy Kaufman before, or since.

Andy Kaufman exasperated the fans and Jerry Lawler like no other.
Andy Kaufman exasperated the fans and Jerry Lawler like no other. [Photo: NBC.com]
It was often difficult separating the entertainer from the real person that was Andy Kaufman. What was real, and what was an act? Kaufman wanted genuine emotions from his audience, and most of the time, he kept people around him out of the loop of what he was going to do. He wanted to entertain but was always pushing the envelope further, making people uncomfortable, making them question if what they were seeing was genuine and true. This would prove invaluable when he got involved in wrestling; a business that had no qualms with muddling the truth. The characters Andy Kaufman would later develop were made to entertain, not necessarily for the audience to like him.

Andy Kaufman – Early Life

Andy Kaufman as a child
Andy Kaufman as a child

From an early age, Kaufman felt a need to perform. Instead of going outside to play with the other kids as his parents urged him, he preferred to watch television all day (if he could) and to write poems and stories. When in his basement bedroom, Andy would imagine there was a camera on the wall where he would recreate shows as if he were really on television. When his younger brother Mike reached the age of two, Andy could be seen many times alone in the living room looking sad and just staring out the window. This was when he was four years old. His parents sought professional help because they believed something was wrong with their son.

“My mother sent me to psychiatrists since the age of four because she didn’t think little boys should be sad,” Kaufman once admitted. “When my brother was born, I stared out the window for days. Can you imagine that?”

In summer camp, Andy, who didn’t like to go, would according to his father, “just stand in the outfield with his back turned to home plate and dream out there.” He was not athletic and did not enjoy playing sports with the others. As if he felt safer with older children compared to kids of his own age, Kaufman began to entertain them at parties at eight-years-old.

As an adolescent, he was shy and obsessed with Elvis Presley. He remembers while living in the Long Island, New York area, nobody liked Elvis and preferred the Beatles. He’d stay at home obsessively listening to his records and imitating him. Years later as an adult, playing the role of Elvis was one of his main acts.

As a teenager in the early ‘60s, he was part of a group of outsiders in high school that liked to take drugs. Once they were getting close to graduating, they wondered what was Andy going to do when he had to go to college or have to work. He had gotten low grades throughout school and just seemingly was “not part of this world.”

Andy, on this time of his life, once stated, “I went to college to study to be in television and I said to myself ‘what do I want to do in life? Do I want to keep on getting stoned which I really don’t enjoy that much, or do I really want to do something with my life? I want to be on television and be successful at what I do.’”

Taking up Transcendental Meditation helped keep him grounded as he focused on his goal. He conquered his shyness through inner peace and wellness. He also had his own show in college called “Uncle Andy’s Funhouse.”

Andy Kaufman Out In The World

After high school, Andy Kaufman began performing at comedy clubs, coffee houses, and putting on concerts where he would showcase his various characters. Several appearances on Saturday Night Live heightened his fame along with The Tonight Show, The Midnight Special, The David Letterman Show, and many more.

The popular sitcom Taxi brought him aboard where he played Latka Gravas, who was very similar to his “Foreign Man” character. He was convinced by his manager to take a role in Taxi because this would help him grow his audience. At first, Andy was not so enthused about this role because to him, sitcoms were very derivative and not worth his time.

Kaufman ended up demanding that his alter ego character, Tony Clifton, who was a drunken, cigarette smoking lounge singer/insult comic have guest appearances on the show and a contract of his own, different than Andy Kaufman’s.

On why Andy would always push the envelope, friend and writer Bob Zmuda said, “His big fear was that he’d only be remembered for the show Taxi.”

Tony Clifton

Tony Clifton was one of Andy Kaufman’s most well-known characters who was sometimes played by his friend and confidant Bob Zmuda. He would befuddle the night club crowd, even more, when Tony Clifton was on stage and Andy was in the audience enjoying the show with everyone else. A dream of his was to play Carnegie Hall, and he did it in 1979 singing as Elvis. After the show, he had shuttles waiting to take audience members to a local bakery for milk and cookies. The next day, his performance would continue on The Staten Island Ferry, and everyone was invited.

Confrontation, To Andy Kaufman, Was Hilarious

On the set of Taxi, the character of Tony Clifton didn’t last long because the cast and crew members were fed up with his outlandish behavior. One day during rehearsals, on the set as Tony Clifton, he got fired because he showed up with two prostitutes. After throwing a tantrum, he got into a scuffle with fellow star Judd Hirsch, and the incident made the local papers. A week later, Andy showed up on the set as if nothing had happened, because that had been Tony, not Andy. Remember, they had separate contracts!

Andy Kaufman as Tony Clifton, with the hookers on his lap, having a heated discussion with Judd Hirsch.
Andy Kaufman as Tony Clifton, with the hookers on his lap, having a heated discussion with Judd Hirsch. [Source: lostmediaarchive.fandom.com]
“Confrontation to [Andy] was funny,” according to former girlfriend Lynn Margulies. “He would laugh at you because you were getting angry at him, which of course could drive you insane.”

 

On the variety show Fridays, he refused to say his lines and was ultimately confronted by Michael Richards and shoved by a producer while the cameras were still recording.

“He loved to see people lose it. It was just good theater,” admits musical director, Gregg Sutton.

As Tony Clifton, Andy Kaufman continued causing trouble when invited to The Dinah Shore Show. He started cracking raw eggs and bacon in her hair during the cooking segment. It’s said that Dinah burned the footage.

As previously mentioned, Tony Clifton was sometimes played by his writer friend Bob Zmuda and he had this to say about the character, “Andy didn’t understand how someone could play a bad guy in a movie and it was okay, but not on stage. So through Tony Clifton, he explored that.”

“I just want real reactions. I want people to laugh from the gut, be sad from the gut - or get angry from the gut.” -Andy Kaufman
“I just want real reactions. I want people to laugh from the gut, be sad from the gut – or get angry from the gut.” -Andy Kaufman

A Career Altering Decision

At the peak of his fame, instead of maintaining the course and playing it safe, in typical Andy Kaufman fashion, he made a decision that many say was career suicide.

Andy was always a fan of professional wrestling and in 1963 when in the 8th grade, he was able to watch Buddy Rogers lose his title to Bruno Sammartino at Madison Square Garden. He was amazed at the reaction Rogers got from the crowd and he wanted to somehow recreate that emotion in his acts.

The original card for Bruno Sammartino vs Buddy Rogers from 1963. This is the night that started the 7-year run for Bruno as champ. A 14-year-old Andy Kaufman was in attendance.
The original card for Bruno Sammartino vs Buddy Rogers from Madison Square Garden in 1963. This is the night that started the 7-year run for Bruno as champ. A 14-year-old Andy Kaufman was in attendance. [Source: u/fpfx on Reddit]

Andy Kaufman as World Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion

Andy Kaufman began to challenge women in his audience and wrestle them for a chance to win a cash prize if they could pin him. He would incite his audience as only the best wrestling heel could.

“Ladies and gentleman, I am here to wrestle! This is not a comedy routine or a skit. This is real. I am here to wrestle a woman.”

Andy would then say that he wanted competition insinuating that maybe the women in the audience were afraid.

“All I’m trying to say is that it takes a certain mental energy to be able to wrestle. It takes a certain way of thinking, a certain strategy. Women I think do not possess this. When it’s a woman against a man, the man possesses it, the woman doesn’t. In the same token, there are times when a woman has more of this mental energy and presence than a man in the kitchen scrubbing the potatoes, washing the carrots, scrubbing the floors, raising the babies. These are all things that women are good at.”

Inspiration From Wrestling’s Carny Roots

Andy wanted to recapture the old days of the carnivals before television, where wrestlers would go from town to town and offer a sum of money to any man that could last a certain amount of time with them. So he decided he wanted to do the same and offer a prize and make it out like a contest. He couldn’t challenge men in the audience because he’d certainly be at a disadvantage because he considered most men bigger and stronger than him. To counter this, he challenged women instead.

Caitlan Clarke, Andy Kaufman, and Debbie Harry in the 1983 Broadway play “Teaneck Tanzi: The Venus Flytrap.”
Caitlan Clarke, Andy Kaufman, and Debbie Harry in the 1983 Broadway play “Teaneck Tanzi: The Venus Flytrap.”

“Whenever I play a role, no matter if it’s a good, bad, nice person or evil person, I believe in being a purist and going all the way with the role. If I’m going to be a villainous wrestler, I believe in going all the way with it and not breaking character. I’m not giving away to the audience that I’m playing a role. I believe in playing it straight to the hilt. When I’m playing the villain, what I’m trying to do is get people to really dislike me, so they’ll root for the woman I’m wrestling and hope that I lose.”

– Andy Kaufman


Andy Kaufman would take on all comers, as long as they were women. [Photo: TV Guide]
Andy Kaufman would take on all comers, as long as they were women. [Source: TV Guide]

Fans Turn On Andy Kaufman Because of Him Wrestling Women

George Shapiro, Andy’s manager at the time, once said, “There’s been such a negative reaction to his wrestling especially on Saturday Night Live, which was a show his fans watched. Fans that loved him for years, suddenly as a result of that show turned on him. I got thousands and thousands of letters of hate mail directed at Andy.”

The letters Andy received from women around the country wanting to wrestle him on SNL are featured in the book Dear Andy Kaufman, I Hate Your Guts! by Lynne Margulies and Bob Zmuda. He would wrestle women at any time and at any place. On airplanes, restaurants and even brothels. He wanted to open “Andy Kaufman Wrestling Farms.”

His friend Bob Zmuda offered, “I definitely think that wrestling has cost Andy Kaufman his career, no doubt about it.”

Zmuda would later go on to say that most places wouldn’t hire Kaufman anymore because of his wrestling of women.

Pro Wrestling Wasn’t Ready For Andy Kaufman

With his obsession with wrestling, he now craved a bigger stage and at first tried to convince the WWF to bring him aboard as Bill Apter mentions in his book, Is Wrestling Fixed? I Didn’t Know It was Broken!

Watch: Andy Kaufman being interviewed by Vince McMahon

McMahon met Andy Kaufman backstage at Madison Square Garden sometime in late 1981. Andy was trying to convince Vince Sr. to bring him aboard, but he was not interested in “Hollywood Types.” After the show according to Bill Apter, Andy asked if he could ride the subway back to his apartment so they could talk wrestling. At the time, Bill was sharing an apartment with woman wrestler Susan Sexton. Andy just would not stop talking about wrestling, to the point where Susan had to leave them alone and went to the bedroom to listen to music instead.

Left by themselves, Andy kept questioning why Vince Sr. wasn’t interested in giving him a chance. While they were talking, Bill was thumbing through some wrestling magazines and noticed some photos taken of the Memphis, Tennessee area. He saw that they had some horror-themed characters. Recalling Andy’s great imitation of Elvis in his performances, he suggested Andy could “go to Memphis as an evil Elvis or something.”

Bill was friends with Jerry Lawler and suggested that maybe they could give him a call. Bill explained to Andy, “The wrestling community is up all night, and if they aren’t, they’re always open to a wake-up business call.”

Even though it was around midnight in Memphis, Lawler picked up, “You’ve got Andy Kaufman, the guy from Taxi, in your little roach-infested apartment in Queens?”

Bill explains what happened afterward.

“A few days later, Andy called me from Lawler’s house. Plans were underway to make Andy Kaufman the most hated man in wrestling. His promos insulting the people in the Mid-Southern area are classics. Alongside Kaufman was “Mouth of the South” Jimmy Hart. What a duo of mouths!”

Bill Apter was crucial in getting Andy Kaufman started in wrestling after the WWF wasn’t interested.
Bill Apter was crucial in getting Andy Kaufman started in wrestling after the WWF wasn’t interested.

Andy Kaufman Takes His Act to Memphis

Vince Sr. didn’t have the vision to do something with Andy, but thankfully Jerry Lawler, Jerry Jarrett, and the Memphis promotion did!

“He wasn’t just misunderstood by Memphians; he just wasn’t understood at all,” says Dave Brown who co-hosted Championship Wrestling in Memphis with Lance Russell.

He continues, “For Andy to come in and start insulting Jerry and then carrying that over to insulting the entire area, I mean he was talking about the people of Memphis and putting them down and how they were backwoods. In one interview, he was explaining soap and how it should be used regularly to clean their bodies. I mean, really insulting stuff. And people were just furious.” (You can see this infamous promo later in this piece)

Andy first started wrestling women in clubs as part of his act and claiming to be the World Inter-gender Wrestling Champion. In Memphis, he upped the ante as he sometimes wrestled several women on the same night.

Once, when he wrestled four women in a row, the fourth woman named Foxy almost defeated him and Andy almost lost the $500 he was offering. The Memphis crowd exploded every time Andy was thrown or almost pinned by these women challengers. He enjoyed this and would make sure these contests were never lacking in controversy by regularly kicking them when they were down or resorting to other cheap shots that made him even more hated – if that were even possible!

The following week, he addressed the crowd and said he was disappointed in the competition he had received. He told them that he would come back in a month and offer $1,000 to any woman that could pin him and if he were to lose, he would also shave his head. And, as an additional prize, he’d marry the winner.

Watch: The Shove That Got Jerry Lawler Involved

In a rematch with Foxy, Jerry Lawler was in her corner, trying to give her tips in order to beat Andy but to no avail. After Foxy was already pinned, Andy wouldn’t get off of her. This prompted Lawler to get in the ring and subsequently push him off. Andy Kaufman had not come into Memphis wanting to wrestle men, but now after Lawler’s interference, he seemed like he would have to.

In an interview with FilmFad.com, Jerry Lawler spoke about Andy Kaufman. “When [Andy] was a youngster, he watched wrestling as I did and he was a fan of the bad guys. He watched guys like “Nature Boy” Buddy Rogers and he told me he was fascinated by the fact that somebody could go on TV and intentionally try to make people dislike them. Most people would want people to like them. He said he would see these bad guy wrestlers trying to make people hate them but they were still popular. So Andy incorporated that into his act. He hated being called a comedian, he said ‘I’ve never told a joke in my life,’ he said, I’m a performance artist.’”

“I’m from Hollywood. That’s where we make movies and TV shows… I’m not from down here in men-fus ten-uh-see, okay? I come here because I want people to respect me because I am a star!” Andy Kaufman was always looking to insult the southern fans.

The late-great commentator Lance Russell recalls, “Andy Kaufman was the biggest thing we had in terms of crowds in Memphis. Andy would ask for a private locker room so that he could meditate before his matches.”

Watch: Andy Kaufman accepts a challenge from Jerry Lawler followed by demonstrating on a woman what he’s going to do!

On April 5th, 1982 Andy Kaufman took on Jerry Lawler at the Mid-South Coliseum in front of 10,000 people. On the night of the match, Andy got backdropped and then got piledrived twice. To sell the injury further, Andy refused to get up and wanted to be taken out in a stretcher and then an ambulance even if he had to pay for it.

Andy Kaufman about to be sent off in a stretcher and then an ambulance by Jerry Lawler. [Photo by Thomas Bussler/The Commercial Appeal Files]
Andy Kaufman about to be sent off in a stretcher and then an ambulance by Jerry Lawler. [Photo by Thomas Bussler/The Commercial Appeal Files]

Watch clips from the very first match between Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler

A couple of months later on July 28th, 1982, the famous incident on The Late Show with David Letterman propelled Jerry Lawler and Memphis wrestling into the mainstream like never before. Here, Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler were supposedly going to air their differences, but as they were going to a commercial break, Lawler smacked Andy in the face so hard that he knocked him off his chair. When they returned, Kaufman went into a profanity-laced tirade threatening to sue Lawler and calling him an as$hole several times. As you watch it, it seems like it’s one of those moments that goes wrong on a TV show.

This made the front page of The New York Times thanks to Bill Apter and his editor Craig Peters who were able to develop the film. The Associated Press picked up the image and hundreds of newspapers published it.

Andy and Lawler went to great lengths to keep kayfabe so that everything about their rivalry could be believable. It was more than a decade later and years after Andy’s death when it was revealed that they did not hate each other.

The sitdown on The Late Show to air their differences just caused the Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler rivalry to become more heated, and the fans just loved it. Most believed there was real heat between them.
The sitdown on The Late Show to air their differences just caused the Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler feud to become more heated, and the fans just loved it. Most believed there was real heat between them.

Andy Kaufman said, in one of the more famous lines from The Late Show meeting with Jerry Lawler, “I could’ve sued you for everything you’re worth, only I didn’t because I’m not that kind of guy.”

Lawler responded, “What kind of guy are you?” Lawler would act bothered by the fact that such a “wimp” wanted to be involved with professional wrestling but only via wrestling women.

Watch: Andy Kaufman, to the delight of the crowd, says he’s leaving Memphis.

Unforgettable Moments In The Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler Rivalry

When Andy Kaufman made his surprise return, he and Jimmy Hart cost Jerry Lawler to lose a title match against Nick Bockwinkel. In the following promo, Kaufman plays the role of the victim but also warns Lawler that he’s going to send him to the hospital.

Watch: “Mr. Lawler, I’m going to give you a taste of your own medicine!”

This led to a Handicap-Piledriver match involving Andy Kaufman and “The Colossus of Death” (Duke Myers) versus Jerry Lawler. Andy’s mystery partner wore a horror-themed latex mask and seemed indestructible until Kaufman, after a running knee off the rope, caused his partner to get tangled in them. In the end, Lawler disposed of “The Colossus of Death.”

This led to Andy Kaufman putting a $5,000 bounty on Jerry Lawler’s head for any wrestler that puts him in the hospital. He later raised it to $10,000.

Andy, teaming up with Jimmy Hart, was unable to defeat Lawler when they had a handicap match. Andy wound up getting knocked out again when he got piledrived by Lawler. Kaufman and Hart had a major falling out which led to Andy seeking Lawler’s help to defeat Hart. In this about-turn, Kaufman offered to pay Lawler the bounty money that he had placed on his head. Lawler refused it but agreed to team up with Andy if he promised that this will be his last match in a wrestling ring.

Andy and Hart along with the Assassins (not Jody Hamilton and Tom Renesto) ended up turning on Jerry Lawler by piledriving him. At this point, Andy began to call himself the new “King of Wrestling” promising that there would be changes. He was going to start teaching the people of the south lessons in manners, etiquette, and hygiene.

Watch: Andy Kaufman very upset after Jerry Lawler got revenge on him with a fireball.

After Lawler used a fireball on Andy’s face, he tries to appease the fans and wants to “give them tips to better their lives.” Kaufman began giving them hygiene advice which included the introduction and proper usage of soap, razors and toilet paper.

The Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler feud continued, and Andy and Jimmy Hart as wrestler and boxer respectively, team edup once again to face Jerry Lawler.

“Muhammed Ali taught you how to box? The only thing you could box would be apples and oranges!” – Jerry Lawler referring to Kaufman’s claims on now being trained in boxing.

“If either one of us gets our hands on your skinny little neck, we’re gonna ring it. You’re gonna be seven-foot-four, and we’re gonna call you Kareem-Abdul Hart by the time we get done stretching your neck!” – Austin Idol wanted to help Jerry Lawler against his feud with Andy Kaufman and Jimmy Hart.

Watch: In a very strange stipulation, Andy Kaufman, Jimmy Hart, and Jerry Lawler are at it again

Andy Kaufman – Post-Wrestling Career and Lung Cancer Diagnosis

As the rivalry winded down, opportunities for Andy Kaufman outside of wrestling were drying up.

Dick Ebersol, the Executive Producer for Saturday Night Live at the time, went on the air saying that Andy Kaufman wasn’t funny anymore and they were going to let the audience vote on whether Andy Kaufman should be allowed back on SNL or not. Even though the audience banned him, some say there was an agreement between them that he would be brought back, but this never happened. Not helping things, other projects like a movie called “Heatbeeps” was a flop, and a Broadway play Kaufman was involved in with Debbie Harry closed after only one night.

A huge blow came when he was denied admittance into the training sessions by the Transcendental Meditation organization in order to become a teacher because they “found his wrestling too offensive.”

“This was a supposedly loving organization turning him down. Like a devout roman catholic being excommunicated from the church. It killed him,” according to Bob Zmuda.

While living with Lynn Margulies, Andy went to the doctor with his manager about a persistent cough. It was then when he found out that he was diagnosed with lung cancer (large-cell carcinoma). Andy looked for solutions through alternative medicine because the doctors had told him that the only thing they could do was slow it down and that death was inevitable. This was when Kaufman went to the Philippines for something called “Psychic Surgery,” a miraculous procedure where a faith healer could supposedly reach into the body and remove the disease.

Bob Zmuda, being a former magician, could see that the healers were “palming things” and he could see that it was not real, but Andy, for the six weeks he was there, seemingly felt like he was getting better, but ultimately they went back to California when they saw that he went into a relapse. The news hit the tabloids and it was met with skepticism due to of all the stunts he had pulled before. It seemed like this was just another one of Andy Kaufman’s ways of seeking attention for himself. They thought he was “doing an Andy.”

On May 16th, 1984 Andy Kaufman died of Kidney failure caused by metastasized large-cell carcinoma in West Hollywood, California with his family and manager, George Shapiro by his side. He was thirty-five years old.

In an odd promo, Jimmy Hart on television claimed that Jerry Lawler with his piledrivers had been the cause of Andy Kaufman getting cancer in his brain. This promo can be seen below.

Andy Kaufman’s Cancer announcement met with laughter in Memphis:

“Pure entertainment is not an egotistical lady singing boring songs onstage for two hours and people in tuxes clapping whether they like it or not. It’s the real performers on the street who can hold people’s attention and keep them from walking away.” – Andy Kaufman

“He basically conducted his life like he could pass away any minute.” – Johnny Legend (Martin Margulies)

Watch: In likely the final ever Andy Kaufman promo in wrestling, he is not at a loss for words for Jerry Lawler

Watch the entire Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler David Letterman Show interview — Highly recommended viewing!

Andy Kaufman was changing wrestling into sports entertainment whether he knew it or not. His angle with Lawler was truly revolutionary in 1982 and got the country talking about the Memphis territory. Soon afterward, the WWF, under the tutelage of Vince McMahon Jr., would bring celebrities into their promotion. Aspiring men and women wanting to enter the sport could do no better than studying Andy Kaufman being Andy Kaufman.

Quotes used in this article are taken from “Biography” Andy Kaufman (TV Episode 2000) unless specified or linked to other sources.

Essential viewing: “My Breakfast With Blassie”

In a spoof of “My Dinner With Andre,” Andy Kaufman meets with former wrestler Freddie Blassie to discuss topics like personal hygiene.

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Javier Ojst
Javier Ojst is a senior writer for Pro Wrestling Stories and an old school wrestling enthusiast. He is the creator/administrator of the FB page "Classic Wrestling Stars" and can be reached by e-mail at jojst1@gmail.com